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Atlantis Partners, Boston, MASubmitted by Crack on Wed, 2006-02-22 02:17.
See: Remington International, as same company that owns them (and TechieGold.com) owns this outfit. ( categories: Recruiting Agency )
This is my alleged experience with Remington International in the Los Angeles area: Remington International took my resume from DICE.com and called me. I went in for a personal interview and met with several of their "children" recruiters. They operate like a paper mill, syphoning contact information from their "candidates" in order to make new contacts at other companies for the purpose of making money off other agencies hard-earned clients. Beware of this practice. It is highly unethical and not whatsoever standard practice by reputable recruiting agencies. Do NOT give out this information to these people. I walked into their office (a reception room, a "recruiter" room and a kitchenette). Not whatsoever impressive and pretty drab (almost depressing), yet, one of the "child" recruiters thought I should be ga-ga over it for some reason that boggled my mind. He thought it was impressive and asked me what I thought of them. I told this person, this "child" that they seemed "youthful." It would have been rude to really speak my mind, that I thought their office was pretty substandard as offices go. They had a team of about 10 "recruiting children" working from cheap conference room tables (tacky doesn't begin to describe it) in a small room just beyond the "reception" room. As I sat in the "recption" room, one recruiter after another came to meet me and talk to me about my background and most especially about who I've interviewed with lately in absolute detail (name of the company, the person I interviewed with, phone numbers, etc.). When I refused to provide them with these details, pointing out that I am obligated to maintain an ethical standard by not proving another agencies clients to them, the little child looked at me and said something to the effect that they work their asses off for me and they expect me to work mine off for them. And that every time they call me, they want me to list out in detail every interview that I've attended, everyone I spoke with and et cetera. And this "boy" even told me to keep a spreadsheet of this information so that they can keep a detailed record on my behalf. As if I would ever even consider doing this for them. Well, I nearly started laughing and told this "child" that I have an ethical obligation to the other agencies I work with and with whom I have well-established relationships and that I didn't believe I would be able to provide this information to them. "Boy" recruiter then said, "Maybe we aren't the right agency for you." Do you think so? What was your first clue? Then, after having boasted about their "grand" office in "Beverly Hills," as I left, I asked if they validate parking and the guy told me "No." I just wanted to laugh my ass off! Yes, they are so affluent that they cannot even validate your parking for you. Frankly, this place is one to be avoided like the plague in my personal opinion. I used to be a recruiter there 12 years ago. Lasted 5 months. The goal is to have a client interview their "top 5" candidates --once they get agreement and getthe client to sign a 30% fee agreement they scramble to get the 5 people to "send out" They bring you in to see what you look like basically and to get what they call "candidate control" I used to call prospective clients and 95% of the time they would hang up based on a poor experience with the company Be careful...if they have your resume they will claim they referred you to collect a fee--this could screw up your chances with a good employer. I won't go into all the details but these guys are a joke. I spoke with three people on the initial call within a five minute period; none of whom indicated they were going to transfer me. I really felt like someone was playing a joke on me as I often complain about my experiences with recruiters but these guys are the worst. Extremely unprofessional and they have no idea about the industry they claim to work in. I don't know how they are in business. What a riot. I just received a call from these guys. My wife answered, but by the time I got to the phone, all I heard was a click after I said "hello." I looked them up (they told her who was calling) and this was the first thing I found on them. Geez! I used to work at Atlantis and judging by the posts, nothing has changed. I have never seen a lower level of professionalism before or since, and everyone that knows of them tends to agree. It's a classic boiler room setup, they just churn and burn. They only hire recent grads that want to work in the big city and wear a tie. The money is crap unless you drink the KoolAid and move up the chain. They must be placing people to still be afloat, but I'd strongly advise against using them. There are dozens of agencies that could help you out, without the hard sell. I'm not posting this for any sort of revenge, it's been years since I worked there and I've moved well beyond the experience. It just brought back the memories when I came across this page. I have used Atlantis Partners twice and they were nothing but professional. They get me interviews with great companies and have always given me feedback quickly. I would refer them to anyone with an IT background. Your experience is atypical. I found them to be highly unethical and refused to cooperate with them. This is the worst recruiting firm I have ever dealt with! The Sopranos have better business ethics than this organization. I made the mistake of calling Atlantis Partners six months back when my company needed a new developer. As is usually the case, we filled the position without having to use their services. A week ago Mr. X (name withheld) from Atlantis wanted to see if we were still looking for candidates. I told them that their timing was impeccable and we were just about to start a search for developer in a new position. On Friday, Mr. Y (name withheld) from Remington calls to see if he can help us with our search. I told him that we could only afford to pay $2k for a search and wanted to be clear on that point before proceeding, for most recruiting firms will only take $10-12k. He agrees to this, but, over the course of the conversation, I insist, three more times, that I need to have this in writing so as not to waste anyone's time. Finally, after half an hour describing the position, he responds to my fifth request for a rate, that it'll be at least $10k to fill this position. I chastise him for not listening. He then suggests that I take $10k off the employee's first year salary to pay for the recruiter. I told him that this notion felt ugly to me, for it meant paying someone less than they deserved to cover a recruiter's fee. I told Mr. Y that I didn't think we could do business. Before hanging up, he offered to call me back on Thursday in case I changed my mind and we could take it over. I should have, but didn't, object, but I also didn't encourage the call. On Monday, Mr. Z (name withheld) from Atlantis calls with a candidate. Not hearing the company name, I tersely explained that we had been over this and I wasn't willing to pay five figures for their help. He said he was from Atlantis and asked what company had I had this conversation with. I remembered that Mr. Y called from Remington, not Atlantis (not knowing at the time that they were the same company), and apologized. In my haste to apologize, I didn't consider that I had only told one recruiting company about the position (which we hadn't yet put up on any job board) and that if Mr. Z was calling, he must've had some connection to Mr. Y. In any case, I asked Mr. Z if he could work with us for $2k, he said he couldn't, and I thanked him for being straight forward and told him that if our position on recruitment fees changed, we'd call him back. This is where it gets interesting. Mr. Z asks me if I'd like to work for a place that *could* pay a recruiter's fee. Perplexed by this question, I asked him to repeat himself. This recruiter had the guts to think "well, if this company won't give me $10k, I might be able to get $10k by poaching a placing an employee." Mr. Z. is asking this of a hiring manager on a company phone in a company office. I told him that this conversation was extremely inappropriate and not to call again. My company could afford these recruiting fees if we thought that it was worth $10k. 20 minutes later, Mr. Z calls my boss's number, trying to go over my head, although he's just tried to pilfer my boss's employee (me). My boss, having heard this tale, hands the phone over to me immediately, and I ball out Mr. Z again for being slimy. Today, Mr. Y calls to see if he can help me with my candidate search. I explain to him that I know Remington and Atlantis Partners are connected and that I will never speak to anyone from their company again. Those guys have not changed. Remington International and Atlantis Partners are same crooks. And oh boy do they pressure you for information like your past salaries, your contacts, and etc. I fell for their scam once, though I never gave them info about companies I interviewed with and kept a lot of other info from them. Too bad what they do is not illegal, since I would love to make that phone call to the MA attorney general and put in a nice fat complaint! Stride and Associates utilizes discriminatory practices in their hiring process. Before I even get into the thick of the unethical nature of this business, I would like to state that within the Remington, Atlantis and C Bridges offices of Boston, there is only one black employee, an administrator, who is not required to go out with the company for social gatherings. The rest of the employees are all in their early twenties and approximately eighty percent of the female population is blond. Moreover, the women are verbally encouraged to wear makeup and high heels. This is in direct violation of the "Equal Employment Opportunity Policy" which states that employees are not to be selected based on "race, color...sex, sexual orientation, age...[etc]" |
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I also have personal experience with Techie Gold, and Remington International. Big waste of time. I interviewed prolly 8 times for those people over 3 years. Kinda low-end type positions, never any feedback. If the client doesn't bite, or doesn't know what s/he wants, Remington can't be bothered to call back their applicants to tell them about it. I used to try and have a relationship with the crew down there. I learned that if they can't place you immediately, they don't want to talk to you. This is where the suckage lies.