Recruiter-Rater - Technical

I am unable to download your resume from monster...

Gryffyx — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:03:15 -0700

I'm sorry. This is just bad. It's clearly a blast-to-everyone email. This company may be 100% on the level, but it doesn't look like it from the unprofessional way things are written. Please, please, PLEASE!!! Don't run your business from a roadrunner email account. Or AOL for that matter.

Excellent Job Offer

Gryffyx — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:58:28 -0700

Adea Solutions, Inc
7701 Las Colinas Ridge/3rd Floor
Irving , Texas 75063

Another "Just as received" for the Ohio position, you'll notice the text is identical to the Hello Good Day posting. Internet job portal? Wow... This one is only 7 months instead of 8 months, even though it was received the same day as the Hello Good Day posting. I'm still not interested in short-term contract only positions. How many times do I need to say that?

Hello!! Good Day!!

Gryffyx — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:51:54 -0700

Radiants System Inc.
109A Corporate Boulevard
South Plainfield , NJ 07081
Tel (908) 548 -0700

Just as I received it. I'm not qualified for this position, and I clearly state that I'm not interested in short-term contract only positions. Another case of blast-it-out email tactics.

pls be more keen

Gryffyx — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:53:35 -0700

Kritika Saxena
kritika@mindlance.com
MindLance, Inc
80 River St Ste 4A
Hoboken, NJ , 07030-5619
www.mindlance.com
phone 877 965 2623 X105

This is a good example of poor communication. I'm guessing this recruiter triggered on the word "embedded." I did use that word in the profile this listing came from, but in a completely different way. I have no experience with any of the items listed.

The worst bang for your buck!

Gryffyx — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:59:31 -0700

I received this in my email a while back:

please contact me for possible interview / opportunity...
harrymccreedy@inservco.com

That's it. Nothing else.

Does this person believe that he/she is going to get a lot of responses? The company appears to be real, but this looks too much like spam. It was rescued from my bulk folder for that reason.

JEM Consulting Services - Columbus, OH

Gryffyx — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:52:42 -0700

JEM Consulting Services, LLC.
2101 South Hamilton Road
Suite 208
Columbus, Ohio 43232
614-322-1650 Ph
614-322-2824 Fx
www.jemcs.com

This company gave me the appearance of guys doing nothing but wanting to make a quick buck on your back. They lie to get you interested, and then play dumb and get mad when you call them on their lies. Probably the worst experience I've ever had with a recruiting firm. Don't bother going to the website, it's been under construction for years and has no actual jobs posted.

Your profile is on file!

Gryffyx — Tue, 15 May 2007 16:29:39 -0700

Candidate Seeker, Inc.
510 Horizon Center
Robbinsville, NJ 08691
ph 609-584-5499

Ok. I'm not qualified for this position. There really isn't any way that they could have mistook me for a qualified individual, unless they did a keyword search. And what's with my profile being on file? This is the first time I've heard of these jokers. Since this came through the Monster.com email system, it's funny to read the part about removing myself from the mailing list. Sure guys, let me give you a GOOD address.

Good Marketing always turns you...off?

Gryffyx — Tue, 15 May 2007 16:23:18 -0700

I really rate contacts like these no better than spam. This is the first impression. Why should I answer this email? I really can't find a reason to. No information about what, where, or how much. In my area? I've had some recruiters call me with jobs 2 hours away that were "in my area." My experience? What part? I have performed a lot of jobs over the years. C'mon Scott! I know you can't tell the company, but at least give me something that would make me WANT to call you.

I'll give Scott credit. At least he sent an email, instead of a "PLZ CONTACT ME" email with only a phone number and address in the body.

Integrated Management Systems, Inc - Gurgaon, Haryana

drewzhrodague — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 06:46:48 -0700

207 Orchid Square
B Block Sushant Lok
Gurgaon, Haryana
India - 122001
Voice: 91 (124) 4049011/12
Fax: 91 (124) 4049013
imsi-pm.com

Integrated Management Systems, Inc - Ann Arbor, MI

drewzhrodague — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 06:40:29 -0700

3135 South State Street
Suite 104
Ann Arbor, MI 48108
Tel: 734-996-0500
Fax: 734-996-0266

Pronto Solutions - Lawrenceville, NJ

drewzhrodague — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 06:35:49 -0700

123 Franklin Corner Road
Lawrenceville, NJ 08648
Voice: 609 912 0284
Fax: 609 912 0994
ProntoSol.com

ConsultUSA - Pittsburgh, PA

drewzhrodague — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 02:02:37 -0700

634 Alpha Drive
Pittsburgh, PA 15238
ConsultUSA.com

Binary Semantics - Edison, NJ

drewzhrodague — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:48:13 -0800

Binary Semantics, Inc.
7 Lincoln Highway, Ste 205
Edison, NJ 08820

http://www.binarysemantics.com

Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 -0800

n/a

Pryamid Screening Technology - Pleasanton, CA

Gryffyx — Mon, 03 Jul 2006 14:02:46 -0700

5994 W Las Positas Blvd
Ste 225
Pleasanton, CA 94588
925-847-9171
Pyramidst.com

AETEA Information Technology - Rockville, MD

Gryffyx — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:10:32 -0700

1445 Research Blvd.
Suite 300
Rockville, MD 20850
Main: 301-721-4200
Toll Free: 888-772-3832
Fax: 301-721-1730
Timesheet Fax: 301-545-0820

Baltimore, Maryland Branch

575 South Charles Street

Designeers Midwest - Cincinnati, Ohio

Gryffyx — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 04:12:25 -0700

Designeers Midwest
7817 Cooper Rd Suite B
Cincinnati, OH 45242
513-793-6670
800-940-6670

Designeers contacted me via an anonymous resume on Monster.com with a position in southwestern Ohio. While it sounded good at first, it was one of the stranger contacts I've had. I'm still confused. This company is about 3 hours from my present location, and the only way you can get an interview is to take a test on site. The test is about 45 minutes long. I figure that I spent about 18 hours driving back and forth to this place.

I take the test, interview, interview again. I do fairly well. One of the things I noticed about the company was that a good portion of the people I'd be working with were young, as in "Right Out Of College, First Job" young. These jobs paid fairly nicely, so I'm guessing that most of the people accepted without even considering the things I had to. Not a problem, but I wonder why there were no older people doing these high-skill jobs. I'm pretty sure I know after riding the merry-go-round at the contract company!

This abbreviated conversation took place after I interviewed and was offered the job:

Designeers: The company would like to hire you. They are offering $X!
Me: That's lower than we discussed, but it's reasonable for the position.
D: Well, are you going to take it?
M: What's the rest of the offer? You mentioned medical, etc. and they talked considerably about having relocation packages and fringe benefits.
D: You don't get those yet. You'd be working under contract.
M: I know that. However, I'd like to know what's being offered before I accept.
D: You don't get those yet. Why do you want to know about that?
M: I'm over 30. Medical means more to me now than when I was 21. I own property that I can't just leave, which is why I'd like to know about relocation.
D: Well, I just don't understand why you need to know that. They're offering you the job. I've never had anyone else ask those kinds of questions.

At this point, I'm thinking it's probably not a good place to be...

M: I'm sorry. I understand how a contract-to-hire works. But I can't walk away from what I have now ( a sucky, but fulltime job that pays more and has benefits, and a home ) for something that's mostly unknown.
D: This is more than you're making now. Why are you asking these questions?
M: We've never discussed my current salary level, so I'm not sure where you're getting that information. But, it is about 15% less than my current position pays.
D: Well, I'll ask, but I don't think you're going to get anything.

Sigh...At this point, I break off contact with Designeers for a short time with a "Thank you for your interest, I'm not." message. But, they call me back anyway. They finally gives me a broadsheet with the company's benefits package listed, along with a stern "You don't get this yet. You're a contractor.", a "The company doesn't understand why you want to know this. They've never had anyone else hiring for one of these positions ask about this," and a "If they offered you anything like this when they hired you, it would be based soley on how you perform."

M: I didn't get any information about the relocation they offer. Was that included?
D: They didn't understand why you wanted to know about that. They're getting upset that you keep asking about those things.
M: I'm sorry, but they brought them up. I can't just walk away from a mortgage without knowing if I'm going to eat it or be able to do something with it.
D: I'm not asking you to do that, you're going to get pre-tax money to get an apartment here.
M: But I still have the mortgage. I can't pay for both. I really need to know. They did mention it many times during the interviews...
D: (rudely) Ok, but I don't understand yadda yadda...

At this point, I don't have any intention of accepting, but I'm going to see this through. For the most part, the contact between me and Designeers is now through email. I don't speak with them on the phone from this point on.
D: Call Ann from (company.) She has the information you need.
M: Thank you.

Me: Hello Ann. I was informed that part of the package offered by (company) is relocation. Since I'd be moving to take the position, I'd like to know about that. I don't need exacting figures, but I would like a general idea of what to expect.
Ann: That's fine. It would depend mostly on where you're coming from and what position you'd be taking.
M: Ok. I'm coming from (city) and I'm being offered (position)
A: Ok. I need to calculate that out. Can I call you back tomorrow? If you don't hear from me then, call me Monday.
M: Thank you.

Now. I'm really confused. Everything Ann told me was that there was a standard, quantifiable package that was offered. Not a "Depends on how you do."

Friday rolls by. Monday. Voice mail. Tuesday. Voice mail. Friday. Voice mail. Monday...

Me: Ann didn't call me back, and I've been unable to get with her. Have you heard anything?
Designeers: Ann is no longer with the company.
M: Ok. Did they give you any of the information I requested?
D: They aren't going to. They don't understand why you want this and they are probably not going to extend the offer anymore.
M: That's fine. I can't accept not knowing what I'm accepting. I make an analogy about buying a car sight unseen, but it apparently goes over their heads.
D: You seem to misunderstand. You won't be working for this company, you're working for me until they hire you.
M: Thank you. I'm not interested based on the fact that it's lower pay, I would have to move to take it, and it has no benefits.
D: But I d...........

I ignore further contacts from this company.